This week, CountrySlide comes from somewhere between the burger van and the chainsaw demonstrations at APF 2026.
Richard Prideaux is joined by forestry contractor and SideCountry writer Nick Adams for a wander around the 50th anniversary show at Ragley Estate, where the machinery is enormous, the fish and chips cost £16.50 and somebody appears to be selling a 16-foot shovel.
They compare APF with the Game Fair, consider the financial commitment involved in some seriously expensive forestry machinery and attempt to record a podcast while seemingly every chainsaw manufacturer in Britain starts a demo nearby.
Along the way there are broken brush cutters, George Browne attempting to handle tools, a chance meeting with a Richard Negus fan, Nick’s latest SideCountry article, beavers, strange Warwickshire road names and the discovery that the forestry world is small enough that somebody at every stand appears to know somebody else.
All recorded with the ‘gentle’ background ambience of petrol engines, tannoys and two men waiting for their cheeseburgers.
CountrySlide is a podcast that looks at farming, conservation and life in the British countryside.
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Edited and Produced by Amy Green.
This transcript was generated using AI and may contain minor errors.
Nick Adams: I have vibrated and I liked it.
Richard Prideaux: So you join us live from the queue for the burger van at APF. What does APF stand for, Nick?
Nick Adams: Association of Professional Foresters. So I don't know why I'm here.
Richard Prideaux: I was going to say, if you're an unprofessional forester, do you have to GTFO?
Nick Adams: No, we sort of sneak in.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: Insidious, I think is the word.
Richard Prideaux: So we're at Ragley, Ragley Estate, I suppose, because we're not near the hall, but...
Nick Adams: We can't see the hall from here. I mean, you're taller than me, so maybe you can.
Richard Prideaux: No, I think it's they don't like sort of land workers being inside of the house.
Nick Adams: Oh, we smell funny, look funny.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: So. And eat burgers, or we might do in a minute.
Richard Prideaux: Depending on the pricing. I mean, what was it? The fish and chips over there was 16 pounds 50.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So.
Nick Adams: I won't repeat what I'm thinking.
Richard Prideaux: I want a lot for 16 pound 50 to be honest.
Nick Adams: I don't think you're going to get a lot for 16 pound 50.
Richard Prideaux: No. So we're in the burger queue. This is the, well we're here recording side country episodes, episode. We've just interviewed some very, very interesting people. But I want to make some observations, you know, comparing and contrasting this to the Game Fair. Because what we do have, George Brown of many publications. He's just over there in the other queue.
Nick Adams: Ignoring us.
Richard Prideaux: Ignoring us.
Nick Adams: He's actually a very anti-social man, I find.
Richard Prideaux: I think he is anti-social. Every time he calls me up to speak to me, I think he's anti-social. One observation straight away is the average physical capability of an attendant here at the APF is much, much higher than that of the Game Fair.
Nick Adams: Well, I would say the... The vast majority of people here are more like me and you, where we have done some work.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: And the vast majority of people who are at the game fair are more like George, who hasn't.
Richard Prideaux: Well, he does work. He just took his work, his brain stuff.
Nick Adams: No, but yes, but it's funny watching that handle tools and things, isn't it?
Richard Prideaux: Like it's a foreign object.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I must hold this end because this end is the handle, but I don't know what the other end is meant to do.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. So, I mean, we tried to send him home with some ridiculous tools anyway. Yeah. Something his wife would not be happy with him buying, but he'd think.
Nick Adams: Well, that 16 foot shovel would have been good.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. What is a 16 foot shovel for?
Nick Adams: Too tall. Why?
Richard Prideaux: Is it leverage?
Nick Adams: Hunting.
Richard Prideaux: Because I like those six foot tall, like grave digging American murder shovels, as my mate calls them. Yeah. They're quite good for various jobs. But 16 foot, what do you do with that?
Nick Adams: It must go more horizontal than vertical.
Richard Prideaux: Is it ditching?
Nick Adams: Why do you need to show us something so far away?
Richard Prideaux: Don't like it?
Nick Adams: Yeah, it's not funny.
Richard Prideaux: Right, so just describing the scene around us here, baseball cap percentage is quite high.
Nick Adams: Tattoos quite high.
Richard Prideaux: Tattoos quite high. Show falls and, oh, beard. Amy's just done the mine for beard. Quite a lot of beard. Yeah. I've not seen that many people wearing chainsaw trousers who aren't working with a chainsaw.
Nick Adams: That'll be tomorrow.
Richard Prideaux: Is that tomorrow?
Nick Adams: Is contracted. Well, not so much contract a day is most contractors come on a Friday.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: Some on a Saturday, but very rarely. You don't get that many come on a Thursday.
Richard Prideaux: So who's here? Who's here on a Thursday then? Land agents.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I think it's a bit mixture, but. A lot of contractors will come on the Friday.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: Whereas, you know, I'm not saying there's none here now, but tomorrow will be manic. This is actually the busiest Thursday I think I've ever seen.
Richard Prideaux: With 50 years of EPF.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So I'm starting to doubt whether it was Ragley I came to. I think I used to, Stoneleigh, the last one I came to.
Nick Adams: We've been here at Ragley for, I've only ever come to Ragley. It must be at least 10 years, but longer than that, I'd say.
Richard Prideaux: Well, that's only 2016.
Nick Adams: Yes.
Richard Prideaux: That's not that long ago.
Nick Adams: It's 10 years ago.
Richard Prideaux: I did just say 10 years. I know 10 years is 10 years ago. But. Oh, there you are. There's George Brown.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: That's non-melted cheese.
Nick Adams: Thank you very much.
Richard Prideaux: I was expecting it to be a bit meltier than that. We're recording a countryside as we speak.
Nick Adams: Are we?
Richard Prideaux: Yes. What? Yeah. So we're going to sit. Well, no, you're on it now. So. There's a man. I don't want you to be too obvious. A man has just put his sunglasses on over there. He has the same body profile as Jeremy Clarkson.
Nick Adams: But less stomach. No, he's like early, you know, popular.
Richard Prideaux: Younger.
Nick Adams: Younger. It's height of Top Gear Clarkson, isn't it?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. there's a warning label. Please be aware that the vegetable oil used for cooking in this catering unit is produced from genetically modified soya.
Nick Adams: Cool.
Richard Prideaux: It doesn't say.
Nick Adams: What a forestry thing that is.
Richard Prideaux: It doesn't say it's real, real meat.
Nick Adams: No.
Richard Prideaux: There's no sign saying that this is real meat, but there's a sign saying this is genetically modified soya.
Nick Adams: Yeah. You know, that thing that's very, very famous for deforestation.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. So.
Nick Adams: How warning?
Richard Prideaux: How positive are you about forestry today?
Nick Adams: I think when you've got to come to a show like this, you've got to be a bit positive, isn't it? There are some nice big shiny toys that I can't afford but like looking at.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: And there's a lot of people having a good time, I suppose.
Richard Prideaux: But you work at the level of forestry where you own your kit. You're not having to work to pay a huge finance bill every month, are you?
Nick Adams: A little bit of finance.
Richard Prideaux: But.
Nick Adams: No, we don't really have any kit. Our kit is a tractor or a van to get to work and a spade. And I saw. We don't have machines really anymore.
Richard Prideaux: No.
Nick Adams: We gave up on that.
Richard Prideaux: But there's plenty of people here who, as we've said on the show before, they are having to service two or three grand bill a month just to pay for their machines.
Nick Adams: Just to pay for the machine. And that's before they put diesel in it, which is, I think Matt said his diesel costs 130 this week. Up from 70 something P. That's red diesel. Red diesel, yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So Trump's just announced he is. I mean, we'll see what happens by the time this goes out next week, but Trump's announced he's going to ban export of diesel from the US.
Nick Adams: It's going to change by the time we get to the end of this queue.
Richard Prideaux: This is true, yeah. I mean, I wonder whether that's going to have a fact, you know, an effect on people coming halfway across the country to shows and events and things if the diesel price stays high for a while. Because just travel costs alone is going up, but then contracting costs, everything goes up with diesel.
Nick Adams: I would wonder, hey, because I The heart of forestry in this country is Scotland, and this is quite far south, away from where most of the forestry is. And I would like to know how many people actually come, but our friend Ben, he's not coming, because he's in Moray, isn't he?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, it's a long way from Warwickshire.
Nick Adams: A long way from Warwickshire.
Richard Prideaux: So, that's the thing, yeah. So, where would what percentage of all the chainsaws have started?
Nick Adams: Yeah, what were you expecting this earlier on? You only know that because there's a \*\*\*\* \*\*\* big sign behind me that says Husqvarna and you'd already caught it.
Richard Prideaux: I'd already been to the steel stand over there. Yeah. So I know where they are.
Nick Adams: Yeah, don't try and be clever.
Richard Prideaux: I don't think it's an electric though.
Nick Adams: No, it's not electric. Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So why are you here?
Nick Adams: I'm here as FCA, Nick.
Richard Prideaux: Explain FCA.
Nick Adams: The Forestry Contracts Association, of which I'm a director, one of six directors. And we have a stand here. Every time. And we're just over there where there's still... Oh yeah, audio, Nick.
Richard Prideaux: You can't point on a podcast.
Nick Adams: I can't. It's just not very effective.
Richard Prideaux: Burger ordering live. One cheeseburger and chips. No, 2 cheeseburgers, one burger and chips, please.
Nick Adams: Thank you very much.
Richard Prideaux: Are you fed up with people yet? How am I? I'm fed up with this cheese. I'll hold that. It's just amalgamated into one block of cheese again. Yeah. It'll be back into the cow soon, won't it? Thank you very much.
Nick Adams: Thank you.
Richard Prideaux: Oh, the \*\*\*\*\*\*\* chainsaws are going again.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: Everywhere you go.
Nick Adams: As soon as you've wanted to start, it's almost like a place where they're demonstrating saws.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, but there are electric saws everywhere. They are selling electric saws there. Every sign on that \*\*\*\*\*\*\* steel stand says Alpro and the electric saws.
Nick Adams: They're not selling them, because people are going, Can you show me the petrol one again, please?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. Or they want to race with the petrol and the electric one. Yeah. The different things. So yeah. Or the Milwaukee are over there.
Nick Adams: They've gone home.
Richard Prideaux: Well, I've got to say, I've said, went up to them and said, yeah, we're doing some press stuff. What's that an air horn now? Jesus. I went up there and said, we're doing some press stuff and we've got this, I'm doing some gear reviews, the big double back through rear handle saw we're doing for you and said, you know, it's going to go out for this many thousand people and this on the mailing list. They could not give the tiniest of \*\*\*\*\*. So that is going to be reflected in the review. I'm going to put in the review, the saw was great. I went to speak to your sales and your product management team. They could not give the tiniest \*\*\*\*. Anyway.
Nick Adams: I'm going to enjoy the fact that the first review that's going to go on the site country website is going to be you saying the soul is great but the \*\*\*\*\*\*\* service is crap.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. I reviewed a tent for the UK hill walking or something years ago and it was a super lightweight mountaineering tent and they had like 16 points you can peg out for storms. But they only sent 10 pegs.
Nick Adams: Ten pegs.
Richard Prideaux: Ten 10 pegs.
Nick Adams: Ten 10 pegs. Go on, say it again.
Richard Prideaux: Ten 10 pegs. But that was so we could save weight because if we added another six pegs in it would put the weight up so they could save.
Nick Adams: It wouldn't be lightweight anymore.
Richard Prideaux: I \*\*\*\*\*\*\* went off on this about 6 pegs missing.
Nick Adams: How big was the storm litter in?
Richard Prideaux: And they put it in the review and they tried to take it out and went, nope, it goes in. That goes in the review. They knock a star off because they didn't put enough 10 pegs in. 500 quid 10. Just keep me the 10 pegs and I'll work out whether I want to put them in. annoys me. But this is why I'm looking forward to doing the gear reviews because we will never be on side with the marketing team from anywhere.
Nick Adams: Yeah. Which probably means we'll never get to do a gear review once they've noticed the first few and how they go.
Richard Prideaux: We just have to buy things to review.
Nick Adams: Yeah, that's not, I don't want to do that. That's not the point of doing a gear review.
Richard Prideaux: Right. I've got a thing to, I've got a thing to give you and then you're going to give it back to me.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: So this, is a one penny that is a Victorian penny.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: And it was. recovered from a shipwreck. There was a ship that was going for the Royal Mint going around the South Coast and it was just off to Charlestown, near St. Arstall. Right. And that was found there. So they were selling them in this little big tub thing at the end of the pier head there. So that was mine. I'm going to give it to you briefly.
Nick Adams: Right. Very good.
Richard Prideaux: And now you give it back. There you go.
Nick Adams: Oh, \*\*\*\*\*\* sake.
Richard Prideaux: So listeners, I bought him a knife. I basically bought him the woodworker's equivalent of a prison shiv.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I can see what you've done there. The handle's bigger than the blade there.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. That is the best. That is a more... Is that the 120 or the 106? Says on the back.
Nick Adams: 106.
Richard Prideaux: 106. So that is one of the best wood carving knives in the world.
Nick Adams: This is very kind of you.
Richard Prideaux: It's all right.
Nick Adams: You don't have to do that.
Richard Prideaux: It's because I think you're a prick.
Nick Adams: Yeah, we all know I'm a prick.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, thank you.
Nick Adams: Can I get, those woodworking things, the heat things where you can write things?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, pyrography.
Nick Adams: Yeah, a nice calligraphy like. You're not a prick on the handle, look.
Richard Prideaux: I mean, we'd have to take a vote on it whether you are a prick, you know. Vote now, listen, as if you think Nick out of us is a prick. Yeah. But no, it's because, it's because you were very helpful to me during my recovery. There was like three or four people who were particularly helpful to me during my injury and recovery, and you were one of them.
Nick Adams: Well, you didn't do anything wrong. I think you needed some other.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. I give it, there's another guy, but he died. He died since, so he doesn't get a present.
Nick Adams: Well, he can, I'll share this with him.
Richard Prideaux: You and Mark can share that.
Nick Adams: Yeah, me and Mark, we'll share this.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. So if you take a piece of bike in a tube and just put it over the top of that, it helps keep the, but the sheath isn't very good. So it just helps keep it in and keeps the damp out a little bit. But you'll need to oil your knife. Do you know how to look after carbon steel tools?
Nick Adams: I need to look after old tools.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. Well, that'll be an old tool soon.
Nick Adams: Yeah, it will.
Richard Prideaux: An old tool for an old tool.
Nick Adams: An old tool for an old tool. I want an old tool.
Richard Prideaux: I want you to carve a spoon with that.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: And then send us a photo.
Nick Adams: Okay. I'm going to go and cut down a very green piece of light. I make this easy. Yeah. And I'm going to take an 18 inch bit of one of the branches, leave the rest in the wood. Because that, my friend, is sustainability.
Richard Prideaux: That's a it's an insect pile, isn't it?
Nick Adams: Everybody loves Deadwood.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, unless you're the person who has to come through with the brush cutter afterwards and try and clear the ride.
Nick Adams: Oh, you wouldn't believe how far you can bounce. Yeah. You don't see it when it's going, I'm going to go through all this bramble here, and you spun around the other way. I'm not sure why.
Richard Prideaux: I know somebody who bent a brush cutter in half doing that.
Nick Adams: I know someone. I used to employ someone who bent a brush cutter in half.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, we were talking about this the other day about employees, how they find ways to break tools that you did not think were possible.
Nick Adams: No. And then when they try and explain to you how they did it, you still don't understand how they did it.
Richard Prideaux: No. I think we want to talk a little bit about the oddness of the fair here today because after our bit in the burger queue, we went off to where George Brown had sort of squeezed on the end of one of the picnic tables bit where there was already a couple there and they had And he sort of budged them up. And then we all arrived as well. You'd have to admit to them, sorry, when I said, can I sit here? I didn't tell you there were four other people coming. They're all going to sit there. And as I do, because I like talking to strangers. Amy sort of resigned herself to this. I like having conversations with.
Nick Adams: Do they like having conversations with you?
Richard Prideaux: I mean, if they show signs they're not enjoying it, I try to make it memorable for them. I'm not getting anything out of this, so I'm going to make this a cool memory for you.
Nick Adams: Yeah. You wake up in the middle and I have a cold sweat.
Richard Prideaux: But we're talking about it. I'm talking about where they're from in the show. And also, I want to point out they're from Essex. Callum McAnony-Riley, invited to the show, said, no, they're not coming to that. It's too far away. They came from Essex.
Nick Adams: And they're further away in Essex than he is.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. They're in detectorist country right on the Suffolk border. And then went through a whole thing and then I brought a business card out and I said, if you like podcasts, there's some forestry stuff you might enjoy this. And then she looked at the business card and then she sort of looked at me and then looked at the business card and looked at me and she said, are you, do you do the, no, you're not the right, no, but do you do the, anyway, it turns out she is a fan of Richard Negus. And has bought his book and been to his talks. And he signed a book for, I think, FARCA. Yes. But we sort of word out this might be a recruiting tactic for the shows overall. I just go and start conversations with every single person I meet and eventually say, do you listen to podcasts? And then we've got one in the network somewhere for them to listen to.
Nick Adams: We have been a bit slaggy. during the show, and I have been for the last week, because my first article is on the website.
Richard Prideaux: Yes, your first one since we moved over, yeah.
Nick Adams: So I've been a right slack all day today.
Richard Prideaux: Have you? Have you been telling people that you have an article on this place?
Nick Adams: Yes, I do. And I've been telling them about Side Country.
Richard Prideaux: Have you?
Nick Adams: I have.
Richard Prideaux: I noticed that the traffic has gone up a little bit on the website today.
Nick Adams: I don't think that's just me.
Richard Prideaux: No, but this is the thing. If you're listening to this on Country Slide, go and have a look at sidecountry.co.uk. with all the articles on there. You may recognise some of them from a previous incarnation of Scribehound, but they were just people who wanted to move their articles over to Side Country, as it was all done voluntarily and all gentlemanly and done that way. And I think all your articles from Scribehound are now on Side Country, Nick. Yep. I'm going to be having more from you on there. There's, well, what were you talking about? Were you talking about beavers?
Nick Adams: Not exclusively. I knew Beavers as an example to make my point, but I wouldn't want to spoil it. I like people who are going to read it.
Richard Prideaux: So there's beavers in the middle of this.
Nick Adams: There's beavers in the middle. They always are.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. When I was finding the photo for the header, I had to start doing research on what beavers are at Napdale. Is that European or American beavers? Oh, there goes the Milwaukee sales team.
Nick Adams: Bye.
Richard Prideaux: Bye. That man heard me.
Nick Adams: Yeah, he did.
Richard Prideaux: That man heard me. He's not going to sell anything now, is he? Well, I've already bought the saws. That's a problem.
Nick Adams: Well, that's the thing. I didn't do that much research into it.
Richard Prideaux: Well, I had to because you nicked a photo from the Forestry Collection website.
Nick Adams: I did tell you I nicked it.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: And it was just there for illustrating a point where you edited it in the way that you do these things.
Richard Prideaux: Because even though we do pretend to be complete idiots, I do have to actually vaguely abide by the law.
Nick Adams: Yeah. And I've helped you do that by telling you where I got it from and telling you the other folks were money.
Richard Prideaux: Can I show you the other thing I bought?
Nick Adams: Yeah. It's a bit of metal. Grizzly Peak Enterprises. I don't know what it is, but he's basically bought some stainless steel for how much? 24 quid.
Richard Prideaux: It's an axe holster.
Nick Adams: It's an axe holster.
Richard Prideaux: So it goes on your belt and you put your axe in it. The Americans have them. So it goes on your belt and then you shove your axe in there.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: I think you better put a photo in the show notes because so people can actually understand what it is and hold it.
Richard Prideaux: If people have watched American logging stuff, they have seen these.
Nick Adams: It's not real life.
Richard Prideaux: No, Americans are real life. I've seen them.
Nick Adams: I've seen some, yeah. Do you ever use to watch axe?
Richard Prideaux: Yes. What a load of \*\*\*\*. Do you just watch TV shows about stuff that you know about and go, that's a load of \*\*\*\* then? Yeah, me and everybody else. Yeah. Yeah.
Nick Adams: That's just a thing to do, isn't it? Why have you brought that?
Richard Prideaux: It's put my accent.
Nick Adams: Haven't you got anything to hold your accent?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, I got that. Got that now.
Nick Adams: Move, move on.
Richard Prideaux: What else do we see? Well, driving in, we drove through a little town. I can't, I don't even know where it was because it might have been some sort of fever dream switch into another dimension. Because it starts off, we drove past a Pete.
Nick Adams: Is that on the border between Wales and England?
Richard Prideaux: No, it's just up the road. This is Warwickshire, but it's somewhere. We drove past the butchers and it said, Pete the meat. Outside. Are you sure he's in butcher? And then, and then...
Nick Adams: One local legend.
Richard Prideaux: Started seeing all these weird rd signs for places, and I think it peaked with Avenue Road. It's just so redundant. Why would you call it Avenue Road of all the other things? I'm going to call this Street Road.
Nick Adams: There's a place in Gloucester, I think it's in Gloucester, or one of the bigger towns around me anyway. I always work it in. I'll come around the corner and the road next to it is called Well Cross Road. Very angry.
Richard Prideaux: I love it. So what's your favourite thing of the show? What's your least favourite thing of the show?
Nick Adams: My favourite thing, speaking to all the people now. Right. Which is the reason you come here. I don't have it. Well, my least favorite thing at the moment is still turning their \*\*\*\*\*\*\* swords on every time I want to talk.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, because they did.
Nick Adams: This during the power discussion as well. Unearing ability every time I've been here and we've done a power discussion. That's us time to go, folks.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, we've got exhibitors badges on though, we're fine. I can top that with the talk that Richard Negus gave that I helped with at Folkies last year, where there was the Morris dancers on the wooden board just outside. And every time you're just about to get into a really important, thoughtful point, you get, and one.
Nick Adams: All right, I'll forgive still then.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. Compare this to the game fair then, because you came to the game fair at Ragley. just over there, over the hill.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: From here. What was, what do you, because that was your first time at the game fair.
Nick Adams: First time I've been to the game fair. Yeah. I would say, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, this show is Nick Adams and Richard Pruitto to some extent. Right. The game fair is George Brown. So if you know George Welland, nothing, you know, so.
Richard Prideaux: Refined.
Nick Adams: Yeah. Wow.
Richard Prideaux: Privately educated.
Nick Adams: Yeah. Upper class Oik.
Richard Prideaux: Doesn't know where his dongle hole is on the dashboard for his car.
Nick Adams: No, if indeed his car will get home tonight.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, I mean, we're saying this. George Brown's car may be in limp mode right now.
Nick Adams: Yeah, on the M4. Yeah, my car's on the M4.
Richard Prideaux: My car's not in limp mode, doesn't have limp mode.
Nick Adams: No, mine doesn't have limp mode anymore.
Richard Prideaux: It's with a hammer.
Nick Adams: Yeah. So yeah, I feel like this is more of a work kind of thing. That guy taught me how to fell big trees.
Richard Prideaux: Did he? Did you teach him how to fell big trees? Did you teach him how to fell big trees?
Nick Adams: Yes, you did. I'm blaming you for him.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, that's why we denied it. The only other thing we found is that one of the one of the places I was buying stuff today, I said, Oh, whereabouts are you? I said, Oh, Winchester. Right, oh, we're going down there next week to see this guy, well, his family, the golf academy down there. right. I live opposite that.
Nick Adams: Small world there.
Richard Prideaux: It's everything I go to in the show. Somebody knows someone, which means you can't annoy anyone in forestry or anything like that because they will find you and they will chase you down or they'll tell everyone what you did.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: Like Alan Jones has been telling, he said, oh, you're the one that couldn't stand in the right place for a tree, aren't you? Yeah.
Nick Adams: But that is who you are.
Richard Prideaux: That is where I am, yeah. But he said, you're fine with a saw, it's just you stand in the wrong place.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: I can't argue with that.
Nick Adams: No, I mean, you've got the evidence.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. I've got a good leg though.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I've got a good leg.
Richard Prideaux: So carve me a spoon.
Nick Adams: I will carve your spoon.
Richard Prideaux: That's what you have to do.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. And then sharpen it again.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: You just have to keep sharpening it.
Nick Adams: I don't mind doing that. It's good fun.
Richard Prideaux: You can shave with those.
Nick Adams: I'm not going to.
Richard Prideaux: You could do.
Nick Adams: I'm not going to.
Richard Prideaux: Right. That's enough of this episode. Yeah, so we have to come to an end.
Nick Adams: Pardon.
Richard Prideaux: End.
Nick Adams: End.
Richard Prideaux: End.
Nick Adams: End.
Richard Prideaux: Bye.
Nick Adams: Bye. Was that stupid enough?
Nick Adams: I have vibrated and I liked it.
Richard Prideaux: So you join us live from the queue for the burger van at APF. What does APF stand for, Nick?
Nick Adams: Association of Professional Foresters. So I don't know why I'm here.
Richard Prideaux: I was going to say, if you're an unprofessional forester, do you have to GTFO?
Nick Adams: No, we sort of sneak in.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: Insidious, I think is the word.
Richard Prideaux: So we're at Ragley, Ragley Estate, I suppose, because we're not near the hall, but...
Nick Adams: We can't see the hall from here. I mean, you're taller than me, so maybe you can.
Richard Prideaux: No, I think it's they don't like sort of land workers being inside of the house.
Nick Adams: Oh, we smell funny, look funny.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: So. And eat burgers, or we might do in a minute.
Richard Prideaux: Depending on the pricing. I mean, what was it? The fish and chips over there was 16 pounds 50.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So.
Nick Adams: I won't repeat what I'm thinking.
Richard Prideaux: I want a lot for 16 pound 50 to be honest.
Nick Adams: I don't think you're going to get a lot for 16 pound 50.
Richard Prideaux: No. So we're in the burger queue. This is the, well we're here recording side country episodes, episode. We've just interviewed some very, very interesting people. But I want to make some observations, you know, comparing and contrasting this to the Game Fair. Because what we do have, George Brown of many publications. He's just over there in the other queue.
Nick Adams: Ignoring us.
Richard Prideaux: Ignoring us.
Nick Adams: He's actually a very anti-social man, I find.
Richard Prideaux: I think he is anti-social. Every time he calls me up to speak to me, I think he's anti-social. One observation straight away is the average physical capability of an attendant here at the APF is much, much higher than that of the Game Fair.
Nick Adams: Well, I would say the... The vast majority of people here are more like me and you, where we have done some work.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: And the vast majority of people who are at the game fair are more like George, who hasn't.
Richard Prideaux: Well, he does work. He just took his work, his brain stuff.
Nick Adams: No, but yes, but it's funny watching that handle tools and things, isn't it?
Richard Prideaux: Like it's a foreign object.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I must hold this end because this end is the handle, but I don't know what the other end is meant to do.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. So, I mean, we tried to send him home with some ridiculous tools anyway. Yeah. Something his wife would not be happy with him buying, but he'd think.
Nick Adams: Well, that 16 foot shovel would have been good.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. What is a 16 foot shovel for?
Nick Adams: Too tall. Why?
Richard Prideaux: Is it leverage?
Nick Adams: Hunting.
Richard Prideaux: Because I like those six foot tall, like grave digging American murder shovels, as my mate calls them. Yeah. They're quite good for various jobs. But 16 foot, what do you do with that?
Nick Adams: It must go more horizontal than vertical.
Richard Prideaux: Is it ditching?
Nick Adams: Why do you need to show us something so far away?
Richard Prideaux: Don't like it?
Nick Adams: Yeah, it's not funny.
Richard Prideaux: Right, so just describing the scene around us here, baseball cap percentage is quite high.
Nick Adams: Tattoos quite high.
Richard Prideaux: Tattoos quite high. Show falls and, oh, beard. Amy's just done the mine for beard. Quite a lot of beard. Yeah. I've not seen that many people wearing chainsaw trousers who aren't working with a chainsaw.
Nick Adams: That'll be tomorrow.
Richard Prideaux: Is that tomorrow?
Nick Adams: Is contracted. Well, not so much contract a day is most contractors come on a Friday.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: Some on a Saturday, but very rarely. You don't get that many come on a Thursday.
Richard Prideaux: So who's here? Who's here on a Thursday then? Land agents.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I think it's a bit mixture, but. A lot of contractors will come on the Friday.
Richard Prideaux: Right.
Nick Adams: Whereas, you know, I'm not saying there's none here now, but tomorrow will be manic. This is actually the busiest Thursday I think I've ever seen.
Richard Prideaux: With 50 years of EPF.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So I'm starting to doubt whether it was Ragley I came to. I think I used to, Stoneleigh, the last one I came to.
Nick Adams: We've been here at Ragley for, I've only ever come to Ragley. It must be at least 10 years, but longer than that, I'd say.
Richard Prideaux: Well, that's only 2016.
Nick Adams: Yes.
Richard Prideaux: That's not that long ago.
Nick Adams: It's 10 years ago.
Richard Prideaux: I did just say 10 years. I know 10 years is 10 years ago. But. Oh, there you are. There's George Brown.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: That's non-melted cheese.
Nick Adams: Thank you very much.
Richard Prideaux: I was expecting it to be a bit meltier than that. We're recording a countryside as we speak.
Nick Adams: Are we?
Richard Prideaux: Yes. What? Yeah. So we're going to sit. Well, no, you're on it now. So. There's a man. I don't want you to be too obvious. A man has just put his sunglasses on over there. He has the same body profile as Jeremy Clarkson.
Nick Adams: But less stomach. No, he's like early, you know, popular.
Richard Prideaux: Younger.
Nick Adams: Younger. It's height of Top Gear Clarkson, isn't it?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. there's a warning label. Please be aware that the vegetable oil used for cooking in this catering unit is produced from genetically modified soya.
Nick Adams: Cool.
Richard Prideaux: It doesn't say.
Nick Adams: What a forestry thing that is.
Richard Prideaux: It doesn't say it's real, real meat.
Nick Adams: No.
Richard Prideaux: There's no sign saying that this is real meat, but there's a sign saying this is genetically modified soya.
Nick Adams: Yeah. You know, that thing that's very, very famous for deforestation.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. So.
Nick Adams: How warning?
Richard Prideaux: How positive are you about forestry today?
Nick Adams: I think when you've got to come to a show like this, you've got to be a bit positive, isn't it? There are some nice big shiny toys that I can't afford but like looking at.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: And there's a lot of people having a good time, I suppose.
Richard Prideaux: But you work at the level of forestry where you own your kit. You're not having to work to pay a huge finance bill every month, are you?
Nick Adams: A little bit of finance.
Richard Prideaux: But.
Nick Adams: No, we don't really have any kit. Our kit is a tractor or a van to get to work and a spade. And I saw. We don't have machines really anymore.
Richard Prideaux: No.
Nick Adams: We gave up on that.
Richard Prideaux: But there's plenty of people here who, as we've said on the show before, they are having to service two or three grand bill a month just to pay for their machines.
Nick Adams: Just to pay for the machine. And that's before they put diesel in it, which is, I think Matt said his diesel costs 130 this week. Up from 70 something P. That's red diesel. Red diesel, yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So Trump's just announced he is. I mean, we'll see what happens by the time this goes out next week, but Trump's announced he's going to ban export of diesel from the US.
Nick Adams: It's going to change by the time we get to the end of this queue.
Richard Prideaux: This is true, yeah. I mean, I wonder whether that's going to have a fact, you know, an effect on people coming halfway across the country to shows and events and things if the diesel price stays high for a while. Because just travel costs alone is going up, but then contracting costs, everything goes up with diesel.
Nick Adams: I would wonder, hey, because I The heart of forestry in this country is Scotland, and this is quite far south, away from where most of the forestry is. And I would like to know how many people actually come, but our friend Ben, he's not coming, because he's in Moray, isn't he?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, it's a long way from Warwickshire.
Nick Adams: A long way from Warwickshire.
Richard Prideaux: So, that's the thing, yeah. So, where would what percentage of all the chainsaws have started?
Nick Adams: Yeah, what were you expecting this earlier on? You only know that because there's a \*\*\*\* \*\*\* big sign behind me that says Husqvarna and you'd already caught it.
Richard Prideaux: I'd already been to the steel stand over there. Yeah. So I know where they are.
Nick Adams: Yeah, don't try and be clever.
Richard Prideaux: I don't think it's an electric though.
Nick Adams: No, it's not electric. Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: So why are you here?
Nick Adams: I'm here as FCA, Nick.
Richard Prideaux: Explain FCA.
Nick Adams: The Forestry Contracts Association, of which I'm a director, one of six directors. And we have a stand here. Every time. And we're just over there where there's still... Oh yeah, audio, Nick.
Richard Prideaux: You can't point on a podcast.
Nick Adams: I can't. It's just not very effective.
Richard Prideaux: Burger ordering live. One cheeseburger and chips. No, 2 cheeseburgers, one burger and chips, please.
Nick Adams: Thank you very much.
Richard Prideaux: Are you fed up with people yet? How am I? I'm fed up with this cheese. I'll hold that. It's just amalgamated into one block of cheese again. Yeah. It'll be back into the cow soon, won't it? Thank you very much.
Nick Adams: Thank you.
Richard Prideaux: Oh, the \*\*\*\*\*\*\* chainsaws are going again.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: Everywhere you go.
Nick Adams: As soon as you've wanted to start, it's almost like a place where they're demonstrating saws.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, but there are electric saws everywhere. They are selling electric saws there. Every sign on that \*\*\*\*\*\*\* steel stand says Alpro and the electric saws.
Nick Adams: They're not selling them, because people are going, Can you show me the petrol one again, please?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. Or they want to race with the petrol and the electric one. Yeah. The different things. So yeah. Or the Milwaukee are over there.
Nick Adams: They've gone home.
Richard Prideaux: Well, I've got to say, I've said, went up to them and said, yeah, we're doing some press stuff. What's that an air horn now? Jesus. I went up there and said, we're doing some press stuff and we've got this, I'm doing some gear reviews, the big double back through rear handle saw we're doing for you and said, you know, it's going to go out for this many thousand people and this on the mailing list. They could not give the tiniest of \*\*\*\*\*. So that is going to be reflected in the review. I'm going to put in the review, the saw was great. I went to speak to your sales and your product management team. They could not give the tiniest \*\*\*\*. Anyway.
Nick Adams: I'm going to enjoy the fact that the first review that's going to go on the site country website is going to be you saying the soul is great but the \*\*\*\*\*\*\* service is crap.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. I reviewed a tent for the UK hill walking or something years ago and it was a super lightweight mountaineering tent and they had like 16 points you can peg out for storms. But they only sent 10 pegs.
Nick Adams: Ten pegs.
Richard Prideaux: Ten 10 pegs.
Nick Adams: Ten 10 pegs. Go on, say it again.
Richard Prideaux: Ten 10 pegs. But that was so we could save weight because if we added another six pegs in it would put the weight up so they could save.
Nick Adams: It wouldn't be lightweight anymore.
Richard Prideaux: I \*\*\*\*\*\*\* went off on this about 6 pegs missing.
Nick Adams: How big was the storm litter in?
Richard Prideaux: And they put it in the review and they tried to take it out and went, nope, it goes in. That goes in the review. They knock a star off because they didn't put enough 10 pegs in. 500 quid 10. Just keep me the 10 pegs and I'll work out whether I want to put them in. annoys me. But this is why I'm looking forward to doing the gear reviews because we will never be on side with the marketing team from anywhere.
Nick Adams: Yeah. Which probably means we'll never get to do a gear review once they've noticed the first few and how they go.
Richard Prideaux: We just have to buy things to review.
Nick Adams: Yeah, that's not, I don't want to do that. That's not the point of doing a gear review.
Richard Prideaux: Right. I've got a thing to, I've got a thing to give you and then you're going to give it back to me.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: So this, is a one penny that is a Victorian penny.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: And it was. recovered from a shipwreck. There was a ship that was going for the Royal Mint going around the South Coast and it was just off to Charlestown, near St. Arstall. Right. And that was found there. So they were selling them in this little big tub thing at the end of the pier head there. So that was mine. I'm going to give it to you briefly.
Nick Adams: Right. Very good.
Richard Prideaux: And now you give it back. There you go.
Nick Adams: Oh, \*\*\*\*\*\* sake.
Richard Prideaux: So listeners, I bought him a knife. I basically bought him the woodworker's equivalent of a prison shiv.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I can see what you've done there. The handle's bigger than the blade there.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. That is the best. That is a more... Is that the 120 or the 106? Says on the back.
Nick Adams: 106.
Richard Prideaux: 106. So that is one of the best wood carving knives in the world.
Nick Adams: This is very kind of you.
Richard Prideaux: It's all right.
Nick Adams: You don't have to do that.
Richard Prideaux: It's because I think you're a prick.
Nick Adams: Yeah, we all know I'm a prick.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, thank you.
Nick Adams: Can I get, those woodworking things, the heat things where you can write things?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, pyrography.
Nick Adams: Yeah, a nice calligraphy like. You're not a prick on the handle, look.
Richard Prideaux: I mean, we'd have to take a vote on it whether you are a prick, you know. Vote now, listen, as if you think Nick out of us is a prick. Yeah. But no, it's because, it's because you were very helpful to me during my recovery. There was like three or four people who were particularly helpful to me during my injury and recovery, and you were one of them.
Nick Adams: Well, you didn't do anything wrong. I think you needed some other.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. I give it, there's another guy, but he died. He died since, so he doesn't get a present.
Nick Adams: Well, he can, I'll share this with him.
Richard Prideaux: You and Mark can share that.
Nick Adams: Yeah, me and Mark, we'll share this.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. So if you take a piece of bike in a tube and just put it over the top of that, it helps keep the, but the sheath isn't very good. So it just helps keep it in and keeps the damp out a little bit. But you'll need to oil your knife. Do you know how to look after carbon steel tools?
Nick Adams: I need to look after old tools.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. Well, that'll be an old tool soon.
Nick Adams: Yeah, it will.
Richard Prideaux: An old tool for an old tool.
Nick Adams: An old tool for an old tool. I want an old tool.
Richard Prideaux: I want you to carve a spoon with that.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: And then send us a photo.
Nick Adams: Okay. I'm going to go and cut down a very green piece of light. I make this easy. Yeah. And I'm going to take an 18 inch bit of one of the branches, leave the rest in the wood. Because that, my friend, is sustainability.
Richard Prideaux: That's a it's an insect pile, isn't it?
Nick Adams: Everybody loves Deadwood.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, unless you're the person who has to come through with the brush cutter afterwards and try and clear the ride.
Nick Adams: Oh, you wouldn't believe how far you can bounce. Yeah. You don't see it when it's going, I'm going to go through all this bramble here, and you spun around the other way. I'm not sure why.
Richard Prideaux: I know somebody who bent a brush cutter in half doing that.
Nick Adams: I know someone. I used to employ someone who bent a brush cutter in half.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, we were talking about this the other day about employees, how they find ways to break tools that you did not think were possible.
Nick Adams: No. And then when they try and explain to you how they did it, you still don't understand how they did it.
Richard Prideaux: No. I think we want to talk a little bit about the oddness of the fair here today because after our bit in the burger queue, we went off to where George Brown had sort of squeezed on the end of one of the picnic tables bit where there was already a couple there and they had And he sort of budged them up. And then we all arrived as well. You'd have to admit to them, sorry, when I said, can I sit here? I didn't tell you there were four other people coming. They're all going to sit there. And as I do, because I like talking to strangers. Amy sort of resigned herself to this. I like having conversations with.
Nick Adams: Do they like having conversations with you?
Richard Prideaux: I mean, if they show signs they're not enjoying it, I try to make it memorable for them. I'm not getting anything out of this, so I'm going to make this a cool memory for you.
Nick Adams: Yeah. You wake up in the middle and I have a cold sweat.
Richard Prideaux: But we're talking about it. I'm talking about where they're from in the show. And also, I want to point out they're from Essex. Callum McAnony-Riley, invited to the show, said, no, they're not coming to that. It's too far away. They came from Essex.
Nick Adams: And they're further away in Essex than he is.
Richard Prideaux: Yes. They're in detectorist country right on the Suffolk border. And then went through a whole thing and then I brought a business card out and I said, if you like podcasts, there's some forestry stuff you might enjoy this. And then she looked at the business card and then she sort of looked at me and then looked at the business card and looked at me and she said, are you, do you do the, no, you're not the right, no, but do you do the, anyway, it turns out she is a fan of Richard Negus. And has bought his book and been to his talks. And he signed a book for, I think, FARCA. Yes. But we sort of word out this might be a recruiting tactic for the shows overall. I just go and start conversations with every single person I meet and eventually say, do you listen to podcasts? And then we've got one in the network somewhere for them to listen to.
Nick Adams: We have been a bit slaggy. during the show, and I have been for the last week, because my first article is on the website.
Richard Prideaux: Yes, your first one since we moved over, yeah.
Nick Adams: So I've been a right slack all day today.
Richard Prideaux: Have you? Have you been telling people that you have an article on this place?
Nick Adams: Yes, I do. And I've been telling them about Side Country.
Richard Prideaux: Have you?
Nick Adams: I have.
Richard Prideaux: I noticed that the traffic has gone up a little bit on the website today.
Nick Adams: I don't think that's just me.
Richard Prideaux: No, but this is the thing. If you're listening to this on Country Slide, go and have a look at sidecountry.co.uk. with all the articles on there. You may recognise some of them from a previous incarnation of Scribehound, but they were just people who wanted to move their articles over to Side Country, as it was all done voluntarily and all gentlemanly and done that way. And I think all your articles from Scribehound are now on Side Country, Nick. Yep. I'm going to be having more from you on there. There's, well, what were you talking about? Were you talking about beavers?
Nick Adams: Not exclusively. I knew Beavers as an example to make my point, but I wouldn't want to spoil it. I like people who are going to read it.
Richard Prideaux: So there's beavers in the middle of this.
Nick Adams: There's beavers in the middle. They always are.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. When I was finding the photo for the header, I had to start doing research on what beavers are at Napdale. Is that European or American beavers? Oh, there goes the Milwaukee sales team.
Nick Adams: Bye.
Richard Prideaux: Bye. That man heard me.
Nick Adams: Yeah, he did.
Richard Prideaux: That man heard me. He's not going to sell anything now, is he? Well, I've already bought the saws. That's a problem.
Nick Adams: Well, that's the thing. I didn't do that much research into it.
Richard Prideaux: Well, I had to because you nicked a photo from the Forestry Collection website.
Nick Adams: I did tell you I nicked it.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: And it was just there for illustrating a point where you edited it in the way that you do these things.
Richard Prideaux: Because even though we do pretend to be complete idiots, I do have to actually vaguely abide by the law.
Nick Adams: Yeah. And I've helped you do that by telling you where I got it from and telling you the other folks were money.
Richard Prideaux: Can I show you the other thing I bought?
Nick Adams: Yeah. It's a bit of metal. Grizzly Peak Enterprises. I don't know what it is, but he's basically bought some stainless steel for how much? 24 quid.
Richard Prideaux: It's an axe holster.
Nick Adams: It's an axe holster.
Richard Prideaux: So it goes on your belt and you put your axe in it. The Americans have them. So it goes on your belt and then you shove your axe in there.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah.
Nick Adams: I think you better put a photo in the show notes because so people can actually understand what it is and hold it.
Richard Prideaux: If people have watched American logging stuff, they have seen these.
Nick Adams: It's not real life.
Richard Prideaux: No, Americans are real life. I've seen them.
Nick Adams: I've seen some, yeah. Do you ever use to watch axe?
Richard Prideaux: Yes. What a load of \*\*\*\*. Do you just watch TV shows about stuff that you know about and go, that's a load of \*\*\*\* then? Yeah, me and everybody else. Yeah. Yeah.
Nick Adams: That's just a thing to do, isn't it? Why have you brought that?
Richard Prideaux: It's put my accent.
Nick Adams: Haven't you got anything to hold your accent?
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, I got that. Got that now.
Nick Adams: Move, move on.
Richard Prideaux: What else do we see? Well, driving in, we drove through a little town. I can't, I don't even know where it was because it might have been some sort of fever dream switch into another dimension. Because it starts off, we drove past a Pete.
Nick Adams: Is that on the border between Wales and England?
Richard Prideaux: No, it's just up the road. This is Warwickshire, but it's somewhere. We drove past the butchers and it said, Pete the meat. Outside. Are you sure he's in butcher? And then, and then...
Nick Adams: One local legend.
Richard Prideaux: Started seeing all these weird rd signs for places, and I think it peaked with Avenue Road. It's just so redundant. Why would you call it Avenue Road of all the other things? I'm going to call this Street Road.
Nick Adams: There's a place in Gloucester, I think it's in Gloucester, or one of the bigger towns around me anyway. I always work it in. I'll come around the corner and the road next to it is called Well Cross Road. Very angry.
Richard Prideaux: I love it. So what's your favourite thing of the show? What's your least favourite thing of the show?
Nick Adams: My favourite thing, speaking to all the people now. Right. Which is the reason you come here. I don't have it. Well, my least favorite thing at the moment is still turning their \*\*\*\*\*\*\* swords on every time I want to talk.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, because they did.
Nick Adams: This during the power discussion as well. Unearing ability every time I've been here and we've done a power discussion. That's us time to go, folks.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, we've got exhibitors badges on though, we're fine. I can top that with the talk that Richard Negus gave that I helped with at Folkies last year, where there was the Morris dancers on the wooden board just outside. And every time you're just about to get into a really important, thoughtful point, you get, and one.
Nick Adams: All right, I'll forgive still then.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. Compare this to the game fair then, because you came to the game fair at Ragley. just over there, over the hill.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: From here. What was, what do you, because that was your first time at the game fair.
Nick Adams: First time I've been to the game fair. Yeah. I would say, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, this show is Nick Adams and Richard Pruitto to some extent. Right. The game fair is George Brown. So if you know George Welland, nothing, you know, so.
Richard Prideaux: Refined.
Nick Adams: Yeah. Wow.
Richard Prideaux: Privately educated.
Nick Adams: Yeah. Upper class Oik.
Richard Prideaux: Doesn't know where his dongle hole is on the dashboard for his car.
Nick Adams: No, if indeed his car will get home tonight.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, I mean, we're saying this. George Brown's car may be in limp mode right now.
Nick Adams: Yeah, on the M4. Yeah, my car's on the M4.
Richard Prideaux: My car's not in limp mode, doesn't have limp mode.
Nick Adams: No, mine doesn't have limp mode anymore.
Richard Prideaux: It's with a hammer.
Nick Adams: Yeah. So yeah, I feel like this is more of a work kind of thing. That guy taught me how to fell big trees.
Richard Prideaux: Did he? Did you teach him how to fell big trees? Did you teach him how to fell big trees?
Nick Adams: Yes, you did. I'm blaming you for him.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah, that's why we denied it. The only other thing we found is that one of the one of the places I was buying stuff today, I said, Oh, whereabouts are you? I said, Oh, Winchester. Right, oh, we're going down there next week to see this guy, well, his family, the golf academy down there. right. I live opposite that.
Nick Adams: Small world there.
Richard Prideaux: It's everything I go to in the show. Somebody knows someone, which means you can't annoy anyone in forestry or anything like that because they will find you and they will chase you down or they'll tell everyone what you did.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: Like Alan Jones has been telling, he said, oh, you're the one that couldn't stand in the right place for a tree, aren't you? Yeah.
Nick Adams: But that is who you are.
Richard Prideaux: That is where I am, yeah. But he said, you're fine with a saw, it's just you stand in the wrong place.
Nick Adams: Yeah.
Richard Prideaux: I can't argue with that.
Nick Adams: No, I mean, you've got the evidence.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. I've got a good leg though.
Nick Adams: Yeah, I've got a good leg.
Richard Prideaux: So carve me a spoon.
Nick Adams: I will carve your spoon.
Richard Prideaux: That's what you have to do.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: Yeah. And then sharpen it again.
Nick Adams: Okay.
Richard Prideaux: You just have to keep sharpening it.
Nick Adams: I don't mind doing that. It's good fun.
Richard Prideaux: You can shave with those.
Nick Adams: I'm not going to.
Richard Prideaux: You could do.
Nick Adams: I'm not going to.
Richard Prideaux: Right. That's enough of this episode. Yeah, so we have to come to an end.
Nick Adams: Pardon.
Richard Prideaux: End.
Nick Adams: End.
Richard Prideaux: End.
Nick Adams: End.
Richard Prideaux: Bye.
Nick Adams: Bye. Was that stupid enough?